Immunizations
Posted 5:26pm Wed Nov 7th, 2007 by jakeller23
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Does anyone know what the best place to go for baby immunizations is? I have heard there are some places up to Chinese standards, and some up to US standards. Will places in the US accept shots from the hospitals that follow Chinese standards?
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My daughter has had all her immunizations so far at a local chinese hospital. The Quality Control seems pretty good, certainly less expensive, but you do have to wait a long time. The hospital we use is in close to our home and away from the city, but I see many foreigners using Peking University Medical Hospital near Wangfujing as their choice for baby shots and also the hospital near Ritan Park.
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We go to Beijing United Family - expensive, but worth it to us as they have good supplies of shots and get some from HK that aren't readily available here.
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We do not give our kids vaccinations.
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AmCare -- which is right around the corner from United Family in the Lido area -- can do immunizations. Not sure about the cost for the shots, but the basic registration fee is 100 RMB (about 10x cheaper than United Family). We're taking our DD there on Sunday to get her shots updated. I'll let you know what I find out (we have taken her there twice so far when she has been ill, and I have been happy with them).
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After calling around I found that Beijing United is the only place with PCV7 and Rotavirus vaccines (recommended by the CDC). Unfortunately they come at rmb 1,600 a pop. Chinese hospitals have PCV only for kids over 2 years old, and the Chinese Ministry of Health has not approved the PCV7 and Rotavirus, which is why they aren't available elsewhere.
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lioralourie wrote:We do not give our kids vaccinations.
No vaccinations? Really? Why not?
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lioralourie wrote:We do not give our kids vaccinations.
I am also curious as to "why not?"
The exact percentage escapes me, but when we first started immunising our children, we learned that a country needs around 80-90% (does someone know the exact amount? is it higher?) immunisation amongst the childhood population to eradicate the possibility of a disease pandemic.
Smallpox was announced officially eradicated, world-wide, in 1980 - thanks solely to a solid immunisation schedule. In 2000, a strain of polio was declared eradicated world-wide - a mile-stone global effort achieved through immunisation.
Whilst I understand the concerns of the possible side-effects of immunisation, these chances are extremely rare. When questioning the MMR vaccine (at the height of its autism-linked drama) with my doctor about 6 years ago, he explained something to me that helped put immunisation into a layman's perspective.
He asked me to imagine a football pitch. He then asked me to imagine myself walking along that football pitch from one end to the other whilst 2 bullets were fired, at random and from any place, directly across the pitch. Being hit anywhere on the body by one of these bullets was a hypothetical example of the serious risks associated with this MMR vaccine (incidentally, autism was not counted as a risk and has since been disproved by health authorities world-wide).
My doctor then asked me to imagine the same football pitch, but to imagine walking (or running!) along it whilst 400 bullets were fired. That was the risk of complications from contracting measles, mumps or rubella.
Your witness.
This above all; to thine own self be true.
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Plus its estimated that 400 million people in China have Hepatitis B...
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Anyone considering giving Chinese vaccines does NOT know enough about the vaccine making process, contamination, adjuvants, etc.
You guys really need to do your homework.
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lioralourie wrote:Anyone considering giving Chinese vaccines does NOT know enough about the vaccine making process, contamination, adjuvants, etc.
You guys really need to do your homework.
If it was as simple as just "doing your homework", then there would only be one point of view.
Yes, there are contrary opinions about vaccinations.
You are taking the minority view, and maybe you're even right.
However to deny that there is a HUGE volume of scientific opinion and research contrary to your belief is ridiculous.
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